MADMEN & SINNERS Mastermind TIM DONAHUE Talks “Lost” Second Album, Unreleased Songs Featuring JAMES LABRIE

By Carl Begai


In 2000, Niagara native Tim Donahue made a small international splash with Into The Light, a solo record showcasing his skills as a fretless guitarist featuring current Foreigner vocalist Kelly Hansen. A year later he began working on a significantly heavier batch of songs that were unashamedly metal-influenced and came with a wish list of potential singers. During a meeting in Toronto over burgers and beer, I had the honour of hearing what would eventually become the Madmen & Sinners album. Asked who I felt would be the best voice for the material, I suggested Dream Theater vocalist James LaBrie, unaware his name was at the top of Donahue’s list. Contact was made, plans were hatched, and in 2004 the duo released the Madmen & Sinners debut, an album unique to their respective careers. It was new territory for both Donahue and LaBrie, and ground they (sadly) haven’t returned to since.

“I don’t play the six-string fretless at all anymore unless I’m asked, like for the tracks on Nozomi Itani’s album (Station To Station from 2012). That was the first time I picked up the fretless in many years. Other than that I play the fretless harp guitar. I hate to say it, but the harp guitar has so much going on that when I pick up the six-string I yawn (laughs). I don’t mean that as anything against traditional guitars but the harp guitar kicks my ass and takes me to places I’ve never been.”

Although it’s been over 10 years since the release of Madmen & Sinners, the record still holds a special place in Donahue’s heart.

“I love the heaviness of the tunes. There are a lot of heavy bands out there and I’m certainly not the heaviest guitarist, but the songs and the actual writing, I think that’s why the music hits you in the heart even though some of the songs are really heavy.”

“You should hear the stuff I wrote after that,” he continues. “I could have released the second album through EMI but the harp guitar kind of called me and took me away. There is a second Madmen album written and I like it better than the first one. I love the first album; I don’t like the way the recording sounds but I love the music. The second album is deeper but… maybe in another life.”


LaBrie’s participation on a second Madmen & Sinners album was never written in stone, but there is unreleased material with his vocals on them. Three tracks to be exact, albeit incomplete.

“I have these extra tracks with James singing on them,” Donahue confirms. “He really wanted to do them and I said that if we had enough time after we finished the first album, we would. We were in the studio and he really pushed to do those other four tracks.”

The songs in question – ‘Falling Sky’, ‘History Repeats’, ‘All That Remains’ and ‘A Heartbeat Away’ (sung by Donahue on the demo) – showcase a softer side of the material penned for the Madmen & Sinners debut. Ballads essentially, although ‘History Repeats’ is quite dark in that it was inspired by the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center in September 2001.

“That music, those are just rough sketches. ‘History Repeats’ was James’ favourite track. It’s quite passionate and he insisted on recording it. I actually didn’t want to record it at that time, but I’m glad we did. I think that if someone famous were to put those songs out people would go nuts for the music. I can see where they would go if I’d actually finished them.”

They could be featured on the “lost” second Madmen & Sinners album, or perhaps included on a re-release of the debut….

“Maybe if the record company really knocked down my door,” Donahue concedes. “I don’t know how they would even know the second album exists (until now…), but if there was a producer that wanted to do it I might think about it. There’s just too much other music… I’ve got so much other stuff going on right now (laughs). It would be like taking a step backwards. As much as I love the Madmen & Sinners music, there’s other music inside me coming out so rapidly I don’t know where I’d find the time to do it. It’s a shame because James sang his heart out.”

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With his current focus on harp guitar – which includes an increased presence on YouTube demonstrating the versatility of the instrument – comes the thought that Donahue might go so far as to re-interpret some Madmen & Sinners music for the die-hard fans

“I actually did that with a tune called ‘Riff Raff’ from my Voices In The Wind album (from 1997 featuring Paul Rodgers). I do it on the harp guitar and it sounds incredible because it’s just me playing alone. I don’t really need the drums or bass because it’s all there with the harp guitar. The song has an Eastern / Indian kind of inflection to it in the original version, but with the harp guitar it moves even further East (laughs).”

Donahue’s career as a recording artist dates back to 1986 but he’s never pursued any sort of grand international popularity. Voices In The Wind and Into The Light got the ball rolling on that score, but it’s fair to say that Madmen & Sinners opened the door to a much larger and diverse audience.

“I don’t know if I can say it’s because of the Madmen record,” Donahue counters, “but I’ve wondered about it because I’ve been putting stuff out on YouTube like everyone else. I recently got a mail comment from someone in Argentina, and he’d seen a video that I’d posted of me playing a piece. It wasn’t intentional, but there’s a Madmen & Sinners poster on the wall behind me in the clip. The guy saw the poster and he told me how it was one of his favourite albums, that he was waiting for the follow-up (laughs). I get comments every now and then from people who are into Madmen & Sinners. They love the harp guitar but some people are aware of the album; just not as many as you would think.”

“I’m glad people like Madmen & Sinners, I’m glad they’re still discovering the album. And even though I’m not doing metal now they’re still open to my playing, which is great.”

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Check out the Madmen & Sinners tracks ‘Children Of The Flame’, ‘The End’ and ‘My Heart Bleeds’.

Footage of Donahue performing on harp guitar can be viewed here.